Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/01/2001 09:05 AM Senate FIN

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                              MINUTES                                                                                         
                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                          March 01, 2001                                                                                      
                              9:05 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPES                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SFC-01 # 30,  Side A                                                                                                            
SFC 01 # 30,  Side B                                                                                                            
SFC 01 # 31,  Side A                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete  Kelly convened the  meeting at approximately  9:05 AM                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Jerry Ward, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Leman                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:   DAN SPENCER, Director, Division  of Administrative                                                          
Services,  Department  of Administration;  JANE  DEMMERT,  Executive                                                            
Director, Alaska  Commission On Aging, Division of  Senior Services,                                                            
Department  of Administration;  KIM GARNERO,  Director, Division  of                                                            
Finance,  Department of  Administration; CHARLES  HOSACK,  Director,                                                            
Division  of Motor  Vehicles,  Department  of  Administration;  JEFF                                                            
BUSH, Deputy  Commissioner, Office  of the Commissioner,  Department                                                            
of  Community  and  Economic  Development;   TOM LAWSON,   Director,                                                            
Division  of Administrative  Services, Department  of Community  and                                                            
Economic Development;  JOAN BROWN,  Chief Budget Analyst,  Office of                                                            
Management and Budget;  JOSEPH REEVES, Deputy Director/ASM, Division                                                            
of Administrative  Services, Department of Corrections;  EDDY JEANS,                                                            
Manager,  School  Finance  and  Facilities  Section,  Department  of                                                            
Education and  Early Development; KAREN CRANE, Director,  Libraries,                                                            
Archives and Museums, Department  of Education and Early Development                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Attending  via  Teleconference:     From  Anchorage:    ROBERT  POE,                                                          
Executive  Director,   Alaska  Industrial  Development   and  Export                                                            
Authority (AIDEA)  and Alaska Energy  Authority (ADA) Department  of                                                            
Community   and   Economic   Development;   YVONNE   CHASE,   Deputy                                                            
Commissioner,  Early Development, Department of Education  and Early                                                            
Development;  From  Mat-Su:    GARY SHERIDAN,   Consulting  Manager,                                                            
Anchorage  Pioneer's   Home,  Department  of  Administration;   From                                                          
Seward:    FRED ESPOSITO,   Director,  Alaska Vocational   Technical                                                            
Center, Department of Education and Early Development                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB 29 - APPROP: GOVERNOR'S CAPITAL BUDGET                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The  committee   heard   budget  request   presentations  from   the                                                            
Department of  Administration, Department of Community  and Economic                                                            
Development,  Department  of  Corrections,  and  the  Department  of                                                            
Education and Early Development.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 29                                                                                                         
     "An Act making  capital appropriations and capitalizing  funds;                                                            
     making appropriations  under art. IX, sec. 17(c),  Constitution                                                            
     of the State of Alaska,  from the constitutional budget reserve                                                            
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Pioneers' Homes Emergency Repairs and Maintenance                                                                          
     $350,000                                                                                                                   
          $250,000 Alaska Housing Fund Corporation (AHFC) Dividend                                                              
          $100,000 General Fund/Mental Health (GF/MH)                                                                           
     Reference No. 34006                                                                                                        
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This request  includes eleven fire & life safety  projects, six                                                            
     continued  maintenance   and  structural  repairs,  and  twelve                                                            
     Alzheimer's  Disease and Related Disabilities  related facility                                                            
     renovations.                                                                                                               
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Pioneers'  Homes Alzheimer's  Disease and Related Disabilities                                                             
     Modifications                                                                                                              
      $250,000 Mental Health Trust Settlement Income (MHTAAR)                                                                   
     Reference No.:  34770                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                              
     Election District:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                     
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Funding  will be used  to provide for  construction of  special                                                            
     care unit  bathing rooms and design and engineering  for dining                                                            
     and bathing  room conversions at the Anchorage  Pioneers' Home.                                                            
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SPENCER,   Director,  Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of  Administration   presented  information   about  the                                                            
$350,000 request  for emergency maintenance for the  Pioneer's Home.                                                            
He informed there were  eight projects to be funded in this request,                                                            
however, if a  pipe broke unexpectedly, the Department  might not be                                                            
doing any of these  projects as it was "conceivable  that events may                                                            
occur which could lead them to fund something else."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GARY  SHERIDAN,  Consulting   Manager,  Anchorage  Pioneer's   Home,                                                            
Department  of  Administration  testified  via  teleconference  from                                                            
Anchorage  and  shared that  there  are eight  projects  listed  for                                                            
funding, but  given all the needs  of the Pioneers home it  had been                                                            
difficult to pare down the list to that eight.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sheridan  informed that  the Occupancy  Classification  Analysis                                                            
project involves  five of the six Pioneers' Homes  because they were                                                            
originally built  with two separate occupancy statuses  (Residential                                                            
and Institutional).  He continued  that over  time, the residential                                                             
parts  of the  buildings  had  changed to  more  of a  nursing  care                                                            
facility  because   of  the  increasing  number  of  patients   with                                                            
Alzheimer's Disease  and other related Disability  disease needs. He                                                            
informed this shift from  a residential facility to an institutional                                                            
facility had  resulted in the need  for those areas of the  facility                                                            
with  the residential  status  to be  upgraded to  an institutional                                                             
rating, particularly  in regards  to Fire  Codes. He stressed  these                                                            
funds  were necessary  to  fund  a professional  level  analysis  to                                                            
determine  the extent  of these  impacts  and to  help the  Pioneers                                                            
Homes prepare  plans to meet the necessary codes.  If the facilities                                                            
were   not  upgraded,   residents   with   Alzheimer's   and   other                                                            
disabilities would have  to be removed from the residential areas of                                                            
the homes.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward  asked why these funds  would go toward hiring  someone                                                            
to tell  the Homes  what needed to  be done,  instead of having  the                                                            
state fire  marshal came into the  facility and list what  needed to                                                            
be done.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sheridan  indicated  that  the  state  fire  marshal  does  not                                                            
identify  what was  wrong  or how  to fix  it, but  rather that  the                                                            
"facility  needed  to meet  the institutional  code."  The  division                                                            
needed the  expertise of professionals  to go through the  homes and                                                            
identify the needs  and determine how to go about  doing what needed                                                            
to  be done,  especially  when upgrading  the  older  homes to  meet                                                            
codes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sheridan continued  that another project was the Sitka Pioneers'                                                            
Home  boiler repairs.  He  informed that  the current  boilers  were                                                            
installed in  the 1980's and needed  refurbishing because  they leak                                                            
and are inefficient and unreliable.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sheridan  explained  that another  project  was  the  Ketchikan                                                            
Pioneer's  Home Exterior  Entry Doors  Upgrade. He  stated that  the                                                            
Ketchikan Pioneers Home  has two different entrances with doors that                                                            
are very heavy and cannot  be opened by residents who are infirm. He                                                            
expressed  that  due to  these  doors  and the  awkwardness  of  the                                                            
entrance  floor grates, some  residents of  the Home were unable  to                                                            
independently get out for activities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  interjected that every  year there was Pioneer  Home                                                            
requests  for  maintenance  and  code  upgrade  requirements,   with                                                            
approximately  the same amount  of money  requested. He inquired  if                                                            
there was "anything  unusual from  Mr. Sheridan's view" about  these                                                            
eight projects or were "most of them just upgrades".                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sheridan agreed that  most of the requests were for upgrades. He                                                            
stressed that there has  been a change in the nature of the Pioneers                                                            
Homes' residents  because of the growing  number of Alzheimer's  and                                                            
other related  diseases citizens,  and this change has called  for a                                                            
more accessible and user-friendly facility.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Adult Day Facility Prototype Design for Dementia Clients                                                                   
     $30,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                             
     Reference Number: 34024                                                                                                    
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Funding  will  be  used  to contract  with  an  architect  with                                                            
     expertise  in the  design of  Alzheimer's  Disease and  related                                                            
     dementia special care  facilities. The contractor will analysis                                                            
     twelve adult  day facilities that receive Alaska  Commission on                                                            
     Aging grant funding and will make recommendations concerning                                                               
     the need for facility upgrades and enhancements.                                                                           
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JANE  DEMMERT,  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Commission  On  Aging,                                                            
Division of Senior  Services, Department of Administration  informed                                                            
that this  request involves  the funding for  a contract that  would                                                            
enable  the twelve adult  day programs  across the  state to  have a                                                            
review  done  on  their  facilities  in  order  to  make  them  more                                                            
responsive  to the  needs  of adults  with Alzheimer's  Disease  and                                                            
related  dementia  special  care  needs.  She  reiterated  that  the                                                            
growing  number of aging  people in  the state  with these  diseases                                                            
"requires facilities to  be as responsive as they can be physically"                                                            
to these people's needs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman asked  for clarification  on what the  difference                                                            
was between  Mental Health General  Funds (GF/MH) and MHTAAR  funds.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer replied  that  Mental Health  Trust  Authorized  Agency                                                            
Receipts (MHTAAR) were non-general funds.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly replied  that  from his  experience  working on  the                                                            
Department of Health and  Social Services budget, he understood that                                                            
Mental  Health General  Fund  dollars "are  those  dollars that  are                                                            
designated  to be spent on mental  health issues to comply  with the                                                            
court decision," and if  "those dollars are not spent then there has                                                            
to be a letter written"  justifying why they weren't spend. Co-Chair                                                            
Kelly continued  that MHTAAR money  is money from the Mental  Health                                                            
Trust  that   is  given  with  the   intent  that  the  Legislature                                                             
appropriates   those  monies  to  fund  specific  Trust   identified                                                            
projects. He informed that  MHGF designates "just general funds that                                                            
are designated to mental health."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     State-Owned Buildings Valuation Projects                                                                                   
     $60,000  General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference  No.:  34019                                                                                                     
     AP/AL:   Appropriation                                                                                                     
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Public Support Technology/Service                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Funding will  be used to contract with a consultant  to correct                                                            
     the State's  fixed assets records.  The consultant  will create                                                            
     a  methodology  to recreate  historical  costs  of state-owned                                                             
     buildings.                                                                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KIM  GARNERO,   Director,   Division  of   Finance,  Department   of                                                            
Administration  informed the  current system  on valuation  of state                                                            
owned buildings  as presented in the Comprehensive  Annual Financial                                                            
report for  the State of Alaska reflects  insured value rather  than                                                            
historical  cost   value  as  is  required  by  generally   accepted                                                            
accounting  principals  (GAAP).  She  shared  that  this  method  of                                                            
valuation has  been an ongoing problem since the records  were first                                                            
audited  in 1990.  She shared  that  "historical  cost records  were                                                            
never accumulated  over the years  as buildings were bought,  built,                                                            
improved and depreciated".   She continued that the  purpose of this                                                            
project is  to contract with a building  appraisal firm to  recreate                                                            
those historical  costs. She detailed  the method to be used  in the                                                            
process of  determining the historical  valuation according  to GAAP                                                            
for state  owned  buildings.  She shared  that the  funding of  this                                                            
project  would "eliminate  the last  remaining obstacle  to a  clean                                                            
opinion on the state's financial status".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     License Plates and Drivers License Manuals                                                                                 
     $345,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  34021                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renewal and Replacement                                                                                     
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Funding will be used to purchase license plates, drivers                                                                   
     manuals, and motor vehicle law books.                                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  HOSACK,  Deputy  Director,   Division  of  Motor  Vehicles,                                                            
Department  of Administration informed  the Committee that  this has                                                            
been the  requested  budget amount  for the past  several years  and                                                            
covered the costs of mandatory items used by the department.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman  inquired  as to  which  types  of plates  are  being                                                            
stocked.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hosack  replied  that all types  of license  plates are  stocked                                                            
with the bulk of the order  being the centennial plates. He informed                                                            
there are forty-one different  types of plates being used in Alaska.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  commented that he had  seen many types and  asked for                                                            
clarification  that this request is to stock all types  of plates so                                                            
that plates were "readily available".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hosack replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  stated that $85,000 to stock Driver's  Manuals seemed                                                            
like  a  "fairly  large  amount"  and  asked  if  there  were  "ever                                                            
significant changes that would make the manual out-of-date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hosack  replied  that  $85,000   has  been  the  amount  spent,                                                            
historically,  in a year. He informed that the Driver's  manuals are                                                            
ordered  quarterly  for  the  offices   and  with  each  order,  the                                                            
Department was able to make changes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
AT-EASE 9:24am/9:25am                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Operation Renew Hope                                                                                                       
     $30,500,000                                                                                                                
          $30,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                          
          $500,000 General Fund (G/F) Match                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  33932                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Federal funding for Operation Renew Hope                                                                                   
     One-time project                                                                                                           
     State Match required                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  commented that most  of the Department of  Community                                                            
and Economic Development projects are federally funded.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  BUSH,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Office  of  the  Commissioner,                                                             
Department of  Community and Economic Development  acknowledged that                                                            
a lot of the funding requests  for the Department's projects involve                                                            
federal funds,  and, in light  of that, he  would not be going  into                                                            
great detail on  the projects unless the Committee  requested it. He                                                            
stated  there were  people available  via teleconference  who  could                                                            
answer any questions that may arise during the presentations.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush explained that  the year "2000 salmon returns in some areas                                                            
of Western Alaska  were significantly less than 50-percent  of long-                                                            
term averages  and that, coupled with salmon disasters"  of previous                                                            
years.  created some  serious problems  for that  region. He  stated                                                            
that in  July of 2000,  Governor Knowles  declared Western  Alaska a                                                            
disaster area. Mr. Bush  explained that this request allowed for the                                                            
receipt  of federal funds  and a  General Fund  match that would  be                                                            
"used for providing  short term employment  opportunities  to people                                                            
in the  region, address immediate  basic needs  impacts, as  well as                                                            
provide  economic  diversification  projects  to try  to reduce  the                                                            
total dependency on fishing in those regions".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked how  "many years straight in a row the state has                                                            
had a disaster declaration in this area."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush informed that  three out of four recent years were declared                                                            
disasters, 1999 being the exception.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Community Block Grants                                                                                                     
     $9,000,000 federal receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  33488                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The Block  Grant Programs receive federal funding  from several                                                            
     sources  in order to  provide grants  to local governments  and                                                            
     services to low income  people which will improve their quality                                                            
     of life and remove obstacles to self-sufficiency.                                                                          
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush reiterated  there was no state match for  this project, and                                                            
that these  federal funds  are designated  to "alleviate the  causes                                                            
and  conditions  of  poverty  throughout  the  state"  by  assisting                                                            
homeless  providers  and  shelters,  helping  with  "infrastructure                                                             
development  and capital projects,  planning activities and  special                                                            
economic  development   activities  for  low  and  moderate   income                                                            
persons."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked if the Department was expecting  more money                                                            
this year as the  history of these funds reflected  higher levels of                                                            
funding, and if this request is "just a projection."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  noted that the  "funding history  was all over the  board"                                                            
and that that some years  the department received a large amount and                                                            
other  years a  small  amount. He  continued  that this  $9  million                                                            
request is a projection.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Community Development Grants                                                                                       
     $6,350,000                                                                                                                 
          $6,050,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $300,000 G/F Match                                                                                                    
     Reference No.:  AMD33925                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The Department receives  federal funding from several different                                                            
     programs,  including  the  Flood  Mitigation  Assistance  grant                                                            
     program,  USDA  and the  Denali Commission.    These have  been                                                            
     listed  in  the past  as  separate  appropriations  under  U.S.                                                            
     Forest  Service  Mini Grants  and Flood  Mitigation  Assistance                                                            
     Grants.   This  project combines  the various  federal  project                                                            
     funding under one appropriation.                                                                                           
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  informed  that  this  amended  request   includes  Denali                                                            
Commissions  Funds  of $5.2  million  that  had been  combined  with                                                            
federal receipt  funds of $1.05 million and a General  Fund match of                                                            
$300,000  to support  various projects  that  the Denali  Commission                                                            
asked the Department to support.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green inquired  if  the Denali  Commission  or the  federal                                                            
funding required the match.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush said  that  the Denali  Commission  funding  required  the                                                            
match.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TOM  LAWSON,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of  Community and Economic Development  stated that under                                                            
the Federal Emergency Management  Act (FEMA) there are two different                                                            
programs: one of them has  a mandatory state match and the other one                                                            
does  not.  He  continued  that  the  United  States  Department  of                                                            
Agriculture  has  three  separate  mini-grants  applicable  to  this                                                            
project  and  the  average match  was  approximately  a  25  percent                                                            
matching grant ratio.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson said that this  project was a mixture of different grants                                                            
some of which required a grant and some that did not.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  remarked that in this grant, there  was an aggregate                                                            
of 5 percent.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush agreed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green furthered  that she  had understood  that the  Denali                                                            
Funds were  not going to  require a state  match since this  request                                                            
originally  did not include the Denali  Funds and the state  funding                                                            
was originally $300,000.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lawson replied  that  this  issue came  up  last  year, and  he                                                            
explained  that  the  Denali  Commission  expected  a  state  match;                                                            
therefore,   the  Department  included   it  at  the  beginning   in                                                            
anticipation of the Denali funding.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly voiced  reluctance  to supply  the  match since  the                                                            
state did not  have the power to appropriate the funds  freely since                                                            
the  Denali   Commission  dictated   where  those  funds   would  be                                                            
allocated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Bulk Fuel Systems Upgrades                                                                                                 
     $4,950,000                                                                                                                 
          $3,350,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $1,600,000 Oil/Haz Fund                                                                                               
     Reference No.:  32584                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This appropriation is requested for expected Federal funds and                                                             
     state match for construction of new consolidated bulk fuel                                                                 
     storage tank systems in rural Alaska.                                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush reported  this is  an Alaska  Industrial  Development  and                                                            
Export  Authority  (AIDEA)  project to  upgrade  approximately  1100                                                            
above ground storage tank  farms in 161 villages in rural Alaska. He                                                            
shared that  these tank farms are  part of the basic infrastructure                                                             
in the communities and  this project would upgrade the tank farms to                                                            
bring them  up to code and increase  the safety of their  operation.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked what the funding source of the  hazardous fund                                                            
was.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  replied  that those funds  were from  the Department  of                                                            
Community and Economic Development.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly wished  to clarify  that these "funds  had been  set                                                            
aside" a few  years earlier and this  expenditure "was drawing  down                                                            
from that."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  said  he understood  that  this  particular  fund  was  a                                                            
"replenishing  fund, and  as it is  drawn down,  it was replenished                                                             
with  monies  generated   from  a  tax  on  royalties  on  the  oil"                                                            
transported through the Valdez terminal."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman inquired  about the Trans-Alaska  liability  fund                                                            
section  of  the   Department's  request  that  had   not  yet  been                                                            
discussed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  and Mr. Bush acknowledged that the  presentation was                                                            
slightly out of sequence, and the matter would be addressed.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked if  it was the intent  of the Trans-Alaska                                                             
liability fund to be used for Bulk Fuel Systems Upgrades.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush replied no.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked if the fund replenished with  monies generated                                                            
from  a tax  on oil  transported  through  the Valdez  terminal  was                                                            
running out of money due to lower production.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOAN BROWN,  Chief Budget Analyst,  Office of Management  and Budget                                                            
clarified  that the funds  being replenished  were declining  due to                                                            
lower production levels.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  asked the  Office of  Management  and Budget  to                                                            
provide documentation on the history of the funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly agreed that  the Committee  would like to have  that                                                            
information provided.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Power Systems Upgrades                                                                                               
     $10,500,000                                                                                                                
          $10,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                          
          $500,000 G/F Match                                                                                                    
     Reference No.:  32588                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This appropriation  is requested for expected federal funds and                                                            
     state  match for capital  improvements  and new electric  power                                                            
     systems  in  rural  Alaska.   Where  required,  lack  of  state                                                            
     matching funds will prevent the federal contribution.                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     State Match required                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  informed  that  this AIDEA  project  is  to  provide  for                                                            
upgrades  and new electric  utility conditions  in Rural Alaska.  He                                                            
informed that 193 communities  are served by 99 independent electric                                                            
utilities  with 88 of those  serving single  villages and eleven  of                                                            
those serving  the remaining  105 villages.  He stated that  most of                                                            
the  utilities   do  not   meet  expected   standards  for   safety,                                                            
reliability   and  environmental   protection.  The  Alaska   Energy                                                            
Authority  gives priority  to electric utility  systems that  are in                                                            
the worst  condition  and over  the past  several  years, AIDEA  has                                                            
accumulated  a detailed  database  of electric  utilities and  their                                                            
characteristics  and  has set  up a  schedule for  improvements.  In                                                            
addition, he said,  once a utility was upgraded, it  was expected to                                                            
be properly run with trained personnel and be maintained.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  noted that the Legislature had audited  some projects                                                            
in  a wide  variety  of  programs  over  the past  years  and  found                                                            
deficiency in the management.  He cautioned the Department to manage                                                            
the distribution of these  funds "very carefully. It is awfully easy                                                            
to spend a lot  of money and not get much for it."  He stressed that                                                            
he  would  be  watching  how  this money  would  be  spent  and  how                                                            
important it was for the managers to do their job.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  commented that  the Department was  aware of those  issues                                                            
and following up on the projects is a priority.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked how the Denali  Commission, as referred  to in                                                            
the project  back  up information,  would be  participating in  this                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT POE,  Executive Director, Alaska  Industrial Development  and                                                            
Export  Authority   (AIDEA)  and  Alaska  Energy  Authority   (ADA),                                                            
Department  of Community  and Economic  Development,  testified  via                                                            
teleconference  from Anchorage and  said that the Denali  Commission                                                            
was contributing funds to the project.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked for clarification of the CDBG grant.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe replied  that those are Community  Development Block  Grants                                                            
that go directly to a community but process through AIDEA first.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly commented  that Senator  Leman needed  to leave  the                                                            
meeting and that the attendance  roll call had not been taken at the                                                            
beginning of the meeting and would be called now.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Olson  stated   that  it   was  alarming   to  him   as  a                                                            
representative  from the Bush  community to  learn that most  of the                                                            
Rural communities  "do not meet the accepted utility  standards" and                                                            
that  many  of them  have  "in-serviceable  power  houses  and  fuel                                                            
contamination"   among  other  things.  He  asked   if  there  is  a                                                            
regulatory  authority that has oversight  on these deficiencies  and                                                            
if there was,  is there a financial equivalent to  a fine that could                                                            
be levied against the power system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly   replied  that  the  Department  of  Environmental                                                             
Conservation   takes  care  of  the  bulk  fuel  and  environmental                                                             
problems,  and  the Alaska  Energy  Authority  addresses  the  power                                                            
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe commented  that the "Alaska  Energy Authority does  not levy                                                            
fines against  entities for  being out of  compliance with  electric                                                            
generation  but documents  the  problems and  then  tries to  direct                                                            
funds  to  the most  critical."  He  detailed  some  data  that  was                                                            
complied  recently regarding  rural  electrical plants,  and how  it                                                            
would be used to evaluate current needs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken commented  that the  Denali Commission  required  30                                                            
percent  funding from  some source  other than a  federal source  on                                                            
certain projects and asked  for clarification on the 20-to-one match                                                            
outlined for this project.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe indicated  that the Department tried to combine  the matches                                                            
required for  the rural bulk fueltanks  and power upgrades  with the                                                            
appropriation  for general  funds  to make  up the  total match.  He                                                            
detailed  how  the  Department  "tried  to include  funds  that  are                                                            
flowing through the state  books" "to get credit for as much funding                                                            
that is  coming to  the state  as the  Department can  to meet  that                                                            
match."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  noted that this is an on-going program  and it would                                                            
be  "worthwhile   for  future   reference"   to  have  a  "list   of                                                            
communities, the project  (bulk fuel, power plant), amounts of each,                                                            
the matches  for those," and "source  funds for the matches"  on one                                                            
sheet  of  paper  so  the Committee  would  be  able  to  track  the                                                            
projects.  He stated that  he was  sure that what  Mr. Poe had  just                                                            
said  was  in  the  project  detail  sheets,  but  the  sheets  were                                                            
difficult  to follow.  He  concluded that  these  four detail  pages                                                            
would look different  again next year and urged for  the creation of                                                            
some form  to track each  community's projects  and "all sources  of                                                            
money in and out."  He commented that the Department  should work on                                                            
a clearer project-tracking sheet for future reference.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly requested  this be done and that the information then                                                            
be provided to him.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe said  he would  "be  happy  to." He  pointed  out that  the                                                            
project  costs  for  each  village  change  because  there  is  some                                                            
flexibility  between the projects.  In light  of that, he said,  the                                                            
summary sheet could show  the project match to the total program for                                                            
that year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken,  wishing  to clarify  his  request for  a  project-                                                            
tracking  sheet,  used  an example  of  a project  from  the  detail                                                            
summary  sheet and  identified  a project,  its components  and  its                                                            
funding sources.  He continued by saying that if there  was movement                                                            
of funds among  the projects, it could  be noted as the sheets  were                                                            
updated.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe responded  that the Department  had tried to be as  creative                                                            
as possible  to get  to the match  and therefore  the match  was not                                                            
broken out specifically  to a project. He said the  Department could                                                            
give "solid numbers" of  the cost for each of the bulk fuel projects                                                            
and each  of the rural  power upgrade projects,  but they could  not                                                            
provide  break downs  of General  Fund  "match portions"  but  could                                                            
"show the match for that year's program."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  requested that Mr. Poe call Senator  Wilken's office                                                            
to discuss what the format  might look like, and then report back to                                                            
the Committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe said he would do that.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  asked  if  any  of  the  utilities  are  for  profit                                                            
operations and privately owned.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe indicated that  many of the utilities are rural associations                                                            
and "those,  by definition, are not  for profit." He continued  that                                                            
some of the utilities "are  owned by a city or community which makes                                                            
them also not  for profit." He clarified  that there were  some that                                                            
are privately owned, but are still associations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Green  summed   up  the  privately   owned  utilities   as                                                            
"essentially sort of a co-op."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe agreed.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  asked  if  there  "was  not  a  requirement  and  an                                                            
expectation of those organizations  that they are involved at all in                                                            
their own maintenance."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe replied  that there was, however, some communities  are able                                                            
to maintain  and upgrade their facility  and there are others  whose                                                            
capability is limited by the size of their community.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Mr.  Poe continued  that  sometimes  only  one or  two  people in  a                                                            
community know  how to run the utility, and if one  of these persons                                                            
moved it could have a "real  impact on the ability of that community                                                            
to maintain  their facility."  He said the  Alaska Energy  Authority                                                            
helps keep the facility running and helps train people.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green commented  that  there appeared  to  be "very  little                                                            
connection  between the amount and  the purpose of what is  going on                                                            
here" and a "reduction  in the cost of generating  power and passing                                                            
on lower rates to the consumer."  She asked if the lowering of costs                                                            
and the subsequent  lowering of rates  to the consumer was  factored                                                            
in.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe indicated  there were a number of reasons  to do rural power                                                            
upgrades and one of the  reasons was a cost of power generation from                                                            
a facility,  but  the department  prioritizes  the power  generation                                                            
upgrades by the  need to keep the utility supplying  power in a safe                                                            
manner first.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green countered  that  with all  the discussions  that  had                                                            
pertained to cost equalization,  and now that the state was starting                                                            
to perform  upgrades,  she asserted  that the  Department "would  be                                                            
remiss" if  more efficient power generation  was not addressed.  She                                                            
opined "this language should be contained" in the project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken expressed  support  of Senator  Green's comment  and                                                            
asked Mr. Poe  if there is a "Cost/Benefit analysis"  as part of the                                                            
ranking  and  a  Return  on  Investment.  He  also  asked  if  these                                                            
utilities are  regulated under the  Regulatory Commission  of Alaska                                                            
(RCA).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  stated that there  was not strictly  a cost-benefit  on the                                                            
project, although  that was one of the Department's  goals. He cited                                                            
that  a  twenty-year-old  generator  produced  fewer  kilowatts  per                                                            
gallon of fuel  than a new generator,  and likewise, a distribution                                                             
process can reduce  the cost of power generation.  He continued that                                                            
the  Department  does not  have  a cost/benefit  analysis  on  these                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE:   Audio  difficulties   occurred  with   the  teleconference                                                             
connection.]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  noted that the audio  was continuing to be  breaking                                                            
up and  that this  discussion  would have  to be  continued  another                                                            
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  communicated to the Committee that  he would further                                                            
this  discussion with  Mr. Poe  when he  talked with  him about  the                                                            
project tracking sheet.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Alternative Energy Program                                                                                                 
     $5,787,000                                                                                                                 
          $5,287,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $500,000 G/F Match                                                                                                    
     Reference No.:  32591                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This appropriation is requested for expected federal funds and                                                             
     state match for alternative energy projects (Fuel Efficiency                                                               
     Improvements, Conservation, Wind, Biomass).                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     State Match required                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  informed that this  is an AIDEA  project, and he  informed                                                            
that the diesel efficiency  and alternative energy program sought to                                                            
lower  the cost  of power  and heat  by developing  alternatives  to                                                            
diesel-based  systems  as  well  as  enhancements   to diesel-based                                                             
technology.  He stated that most of  the program focus was  in rural                                                            
areas  where average  energy costs  are highest  and cost  reduction                                                            
alternatives  are most needed. He  informed that the match  for this                                                            
program  was not  funded in  FY 01,  although "federal  funding  was                                                            
received as  part of a larger federal  energy project appropriation                                                             
that contained several programs."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  identified the  components of the  project as outlined  in                                                            
the back-up sheets.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly asked  Mr. Bush is  he was very  familiar with  this                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush responded that he was marginally familiar with it.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman inquired  if, in  any of  these energy  projects,                                                            
there was anything that promoted enhancements using hydro-water.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush replied that he was not aware of any.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Mr. Poe attempted  to respond to Senator Austerman's  question, but                                                            
the audio problem continued.]                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  voiced  concern about  no  major  breakthroughs  in                                                            
alternative  energy  programs. He  expanded  on the  cost of  diesel                                                            
generation  and  of  efforts  to bring  diesel  costs  down  through                                                            
efficiencies, but he questioned  whether efforts were coming through                                                            
the  alternative  energy program.  He  wondered if  the alternative                                                             
energy program  might be  better served if  it was funneled  through                                                            
the University of Alaska or another entity.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  commented  that  Mr.  Poe,  if the  teleconferencing                                                             
problem has  not happened, might have  expanded on the "new  federal                                                            
laws that free  up the ability for  the development for small  hydro                                                            
projects." Senator Ward  believed that the Denali Commission has had                                                            
two meetings regarding hydro options.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson wondered  if anyone  was familiar  with wood-burning                                                             
boilers that are replacing oil burning ones.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  noted that Mr. Poe  might be able to answer  Senator                                                            
Olson's   question   when   he   was   reconnected   using   another                                                            
teleconferencing line.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  informed  that  the  following  projects  were  non-AIDEA                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska-Russia Far East Projects Phase 2                                                                                    
     $305,835 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.:  33930                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Information Systems                                                                                         
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The  US  Agency  for International   Development  is  providing                                                            
     funding  to  the Division  of International  Trade  and  Market                                                            
     Development)  Alaska projects  to provide technical  assistance                                                            
     for Sakhalin's development.                                                                                                
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush expressed  that phase one of this project  had already been                                                            
approved  by Division  of  Legislative Budget  and  Audit (LB&A)  in                                                            
August 2000, and the Department  was requesting an extension of that                                                            
project. He informed that  this project is funded by a United States                                                            
Agency  for  International  Development   (USAID)  grant  for  USAID                                                            
projects primarily  in Sakhalin, Russia to assist  their development                                                            
agency in providing  an economic and  infrastructure development  in                                                            
Sakhalin and  to "provide funding  for future generations  through a                                                            
permanent  fund  that they  would  like to  create over  there."  He                                                            
continued  that it would  also provide  for "Workforce Development-                                                             
University  of Alaska  Mining  and Petroleum  Training  Service  and                                                            
Sakhalin Alaska  College project",  and "environmental management."                                                             
Mr. Bush  expressed "this  grant helps Alaska  play a major  role in                                                            
the development of the Russian Far East."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked if these were all federal receipts.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush replied yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman commented  that  LB&A approved  this project  for                                                            
$440,000 in August of 2000,  and this federal grant is for $305,835.                                                            
He asked what the plans are for Phase Two and Phase Three.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush responded  that Phase One  for $440,000 had been  approved,                                                            
and this  was for an additional  $305,835.  He continued that  there                                                            
was  another  project that  asked  for the  Phase  One  funds to  be                                                            
extended and be converted to a capital project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  clarified that  the $305,835 Funding Request  was                                                            
Phase Two.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush responded yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Kodiak Launch Complex Facilities                                                                                           
     $4,500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  34013                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Kodiak                                                                                                          
     Election District:  Kodiak                                                                                                 
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
      The Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation intends to                                                                   
     locate, design and construct a maintenance facility at the                                                                 
     Kodiak Launch Complex (KLC).  This structure will provide a                                                                
      maintenance support location for the ongoing and future                                                                   
      maintenance requirements of the KLC infrastructure and                                                                    
      launch customers.  The area immediately surrounding the                                                                   
     facility will be developed to the extent necessary to                                                                      
     activate the facility.                                                                                                     
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush summarized the project for the Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Arctic Winter Games Team Alaska                                                                                            
     $125,000                                                                                                                   
     Reference No.:  AMD6782                                                                                                    
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This grant will provide, in part, for the expenses of Team                                                                 
     Alaska to participate in the 2002 Arctic Winter Games, and the                                                             
     international dues payment.                                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  informed that  the original  request was  for $75,000  and                                                            
this amended  request is  for $125,000. He  stated it would  provide                                                            
Team Alaska,  a non-profit  statewide  organization,  to organize  a                                                            
team for the bi-annual  winter games to be held in  the year 2002 in                                                            
Nuuk, Greenland.  He informed  that this grant  would help  with the                                                            
costs of  outfitting  a team, their  travel costs,  and the  program                                                            
annual dues of $30,000 Canadian.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman asked  for a  breakdown on  the costs  associated                                                            
with Team  Alaska and  also how much  money the  team had raised  in                                                            
addition to this amount.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush replied that that information would be supplied.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly commented that Mr. Poe was back on line.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  responded  to the earlier  question  regarding hydro-water                                                             
projects. He informed  there had been some successes  in small hydro                                                            
power generation,  and cited a project  in Kodiak. He stressed  that                                                            
the department is looking as small hydro opportunities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  continued that  there  have been  breakthroughs  on alternative                                                             
energy sources.  He mentioned that the Department  had just finished                                                            
an analysis  on all the ways that  had been tried over the  years to                                                            
reduce the cost of producing electricity in Rural Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe commented there  are several options available to reduce the                                                            
inefficiencies  of diesel  generation: one  way would be to  improve                                                            
waste heat  recovery options  and another way  would be to  insulate                                                            
buildings better  to reduce the loss of heat and thereby  reduce the                                                            
demand.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  continued  that there  are "targeted"  energy alternatives                                                             
that could work  in one region but not in another.  Wood burning and                                                            
small hydro plants could  be some of the alternatives, he said, that                                                            
might produce  electricity at lower costs in places.   He said there                                                            
could be the possibility  to "target some of those alternatives that                                                            
make sense  for a particular location"  to produce electricity  at a                                                            
lower cost than diesel would.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  if small  communities  with  a  limited  fire                                                            
department  resource would  have more  potential  for problems  with                                                            
wood burning boilers than with oil burning boilers.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  commented that he  was not aware  of any specific  problems                                                            
regarding wood  burning boilers, but  said that whether a  community                                                            
was  using wood,  oil,  or gas,  it  would be  necessary  to have  a                                                            
properly operating and controlled boiler system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson shared  that  from his  experience  in the  villages,                                                            
"there was  a far higher percentage  of dwellings that were  burning                                                            
down when  they burned wood  because of the  continuous process"  of                                                            
having to "add  wood to the fire as  opposed to those that  had some                                                            
type of stove oil furnace facility."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  stated that he  would not disagree  with Senator Olson.  He                                                            
continued that any use  of an alternative fuel to reduce the cost of                                                            
electricity is always compared  against oil as oil has been found to                                                            
be  the  most  easily  handled,  best-contained  package  of  energy                                                            
available  around the state.  He said the  state would only  look at                                                            
wood  as an energy  alternative  in places  where it  could be  done                                                            
properly, safely and professionally, and at a lower cost.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  also voiced a word  of caution with wood  burning                                                            
and  noted that  the  time  consumed in  gathering  wood  had to  be                                                            
accounted for in the cost.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe said the Department agreed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Language Section:  Power Cost Equalization                                                                                 
     $7,800,000                                                                                                                 
          $2,500,000 Alaska Industrial Development and Export                                                                   
             Authority (AIDEA) Dividend                                                                                         
          $620,000 AIDEA Receipts                                                                                               
          $4,680,000 General Funds                                                                                              
     Reference No.:  34766                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  informed that this  request is to  address a shortfall  of                                                            
funding in FY 02.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked if  the AIDEA dividend  and AIDEA  receipts                                                            
had funded this Power Cost Equalization (PCE) before.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe clarified  that these were not actually AIDEA  receipts, but                                                            
that the department would  purchase loans and other assets by taking                                                            
AIDEA cash  and converting it. He  explained that this has  not been                                                            
done in  the past,  but would  allow the  department  to be able  to                                                            
transfer assets.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  wished to  clarify that  the  AIDEA dividend  is                                                            
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe replied yes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked Mr. Poe if there had been an  analysis done to                                                            
determine if  the state could use  the National Petroleum  Reserve -                                                            
Alaska  (NPR-A)   mitigation  monies   to  help  offset   the  AIDEA                                                            
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  replied there had  not been an analysis  about that  to his                                                            
knowledge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush indicated  that the NPR-A funds were used  to help fund the                                                            
FY 01 program for PCE programs,  but there was no analysis for using                                                            
it for FY 02.  He stated that the amount was received  for the NPR-A                                                            
program for  FY 01 was twenty  times as much  as the department  was                                                            
anticipating this year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson clarified that  the NPR-A funds were used to fund the PCE                                                            
program in FY 00 in the  amount of more than $9 million. He informed                                                            
that the department does  not expect to use any "NPR-A monies in the                                                            
future simply  because the  amount of revenue  that is coming  in is                                                            
fairly  modest, and  would be  "under $2  million for  the next  ten                                                            
years annually."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked about the life expectancy of  the $100,000,000                                                            
that the Legislature had  set aside for PCE. He questioned if it was                                                            
established  as an  endowment  and if  this $7,800,000  request  and                                                            
future  anticipated requests  would  be able to  be covered  without                                                            
depleting the fund.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush explained  that $100,000,000  was placed in the  fund in FY                                                            
00, along  with "an addition  of the revenues  from the sale  of the                                                            
                                                       st"                                                                      
four  dam pool"  which  would take  place  December  31,   2001.  He                                                            
continued that  there was a shortfall  in FY 01 because the  revenue                                                            
from the four  dam pool would not be available until  the end of the                                                            
year which placed  it mid-year in the FY 02 budget,  and that timing                                                            
explained the  shortfall for FY 02.  He informed that for  FY 03 and                                                            
beyond there would still  remain a $1.6 to $1.7 million shortfall in                                                            
the amount  of funding for  PCE, and that  "the endowment would  not                                                            
quite fill the gap but was very close."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked if  the shortfall affected future fiscal years.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush commented yes, "forever."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  said there  had been a  discussion to find  other                                                            
"funds to supplement  the endowment  to make it grow enough  so that                                                            
at some point  in time, the shortfall  would be zero." He  continued                                                            
that it "just takes time to build the endowment up."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      Language Section:  Trans-Alaska Pipeline Liability Fund                                                                   
     $2,150,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  AMD34846                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Housing/Safety                                                                                                  
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Appropriation  of the  state's additional  rebate share  of the                                                            
     Trans-Alaska  Pipeline  Liability  Fund  to the  Alaska  Energy                                                            
     Authority  for use for the remediation of above-ground  storage                                                            
     tanks.                                                                                                                     
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  indicated this  is an AIDEA program  and read portions  of                                                            
the description that accompanies the request as follows:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  balance available  from the  state's rebate  share of  the                                                            
     federal   Trans-Alaska   Pipeline   Liability   Fund  and   all                                                            
     investment  earning  on this sum  while in  the custody  of the                                                            
     state  until  fully expended  are  appropriated  to the  Alaska                                                            
     Energy  Authority  for petroleum  remediation  at rural  Alaska                                                            
     bulk fuel facilities  in accordance with federal law (P.L. 101-                                                            
     380, sec  8102(a)(2)(B)(1), requiring  that the rebate  be used                                                            
     for the remediation of above-ground storage tanks.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  inquired if there was a General Fund  match on this.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush replied no.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired as to any limitations as to  where the above                                                            
ground tanks were.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  asked to  clarify that  the question  was asking about  the                                                            
location  of  the communities  or  the  location  of the  bulk  fuel                                                            
storage tanks within the communities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  replied that she wished  to know if the tanks  had to                                                            
be in a community or in a rural area.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe replied  that,  generally,  the tanks  are  in rural  areas                                                            
because that is  where they are non-compliant and  that is where the                                                            
bulk fuel  storage is  very important  to the  community since  they                                                            
have  to  store  so  much  fuel.  He  informed  that  several  rural                                                            
facilities  had  been  cited  by the  Coast  Guard  or EPA  as  non-                                                            
compliant.  He stated the  department prioritized  the tanks  by the                                                            
condition of the facility  and whether they had been cited. He noted                                                            
that most of the identified bulk fuel tanks were in rural areas.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward referred to  the back up information that contained the                                                            
language  "rural Alaska  bulk fuel,"  and asked  if the federal  law                                                            
specified rural bulk fuel facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe responded that he was not sure of the answer.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward asked  Mr.  Poe to  investigate  this  further so  the                                                            
Committee  knew whether  they had to  comply with  a federal  law or                                                            
whether the state was imposing a new restriction.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe  replied  that  he  would  determine  the  answer  to  that                                                            
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  if there  was  a  difference  in remediation                                                             
between privately owned  or community owned storage tank facilities.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe answered  that  the Department  "had  adopted  a policy  in                                                            
cooperation with  the Denali Commission that basically  tries not to                                                            
change the  distribution of fuel in  a community" but rather,  tries                                                            
to  consolidate  it,  if  there  are  multiple   distributors  in  a                                                            
community, in one facility."  They attempt to not change the balance                                                            
by  trying to  maintain  the same  percentages  each  party had.  He                                                            
stressed that  the department cannot do anything with  the bulk fuel                                                            
tanks unless the "community  and all the parties involved agree with                                                            
what is going to be done."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Language Section:  Electrical Emergencies                                                                                  
     $350,000 Rural Electric                                                                                                    
     Reference No.:  32590                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This  appropriation  is  requested  to provide  funds  for  the                                                            
     Electrical   Emergencies  Program   which  provides   technical                                                            
     support  when  an electric  utility  has  lost the  ability  to                                                            
     generate  or transmit power to its customers  and the condition                                                            
     is  a  threat  to life,  health,  and  property  in  the  rural                                                            
     community.                                                                                                                 
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush read  portion  of  the description  that  accompanies  the                                                            
request as follows:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Electric  Emergencies Program provides funds  and technical                                                            
     support  when  an electric  utility  has  lost the  ability  to                                                            
     generate  or transmit power to its customers  and the condition                                                            
     is a threat to life, health and property in the community…                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He disclosed  that, based  on past experience,  assistance  had been                                                            
provided  to  seven  or  eight  of  the  eighty  small  independent                                                             
utilities in  the state each year  and this is what the funding  was                                                            
based on.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward  indicated  that  this project  is  supposed  to  have                                                            
community participation and wondered how this was working out.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe  responded  that  there  is community   participation,  but                                                            
oftentimes,  the community  does not  have any  money. He  explained                                                            
that the department  tries to get  community participation  where it                                                            
can, but "must respond  to the emergency when it happens, usually in                                                            
the middle  of the  winter." He  stated "the  department solves  the                                                            
problem  and  then  does  what  it  can  to  get  the  community  to                                                            
participate."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward understood  the department's  position, but wanted  to                                                            
know about community participation  after the emergency was handled.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe did  not know  the specific  number,  but  informed that  a                                                            
"relatively  small amount"  of  communities participated  after  the                                                            
emergency was handled.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward wished to clarify "if there is any."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe replied that "yes, there is."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson questioned  if the number of available funds was going                                                            
up, was stabilized, or  was going down throughout the history of the                                                            
electrical emergency program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  replied that  the numbers  has been  relatively stable.  He                                                            
shared that  the source of this fund  is a revolving loan  fund, and                                                            
one  of things  that  dictates  how  much funding  is  available  to                                                            
respond to  emergencies is  "what that loan  fund produces"  and the                                                            
amount of the  FY 02 request is reflective of that  expected income.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH  REEVES,  Deputy  Director/ASM,  Division  of Administrative                                                             
Services, Department of  Corrections informed the Committee that his                                                            
Division prioritizes  capital projects by security  projects, second                                                            
by  life/health/safety  projects,  and lastly  by  missions  support                                                            
projects.  He continued  that  the following  projects  follow  this                                                            
format.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Facility Maintenance, Repair, Renewal, Replacement, and                                                                    
     Renovation                                                                                                                 
     $1,000,000 General Funds                                                                                                   
     Reference No.:  30793                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Public Protection                                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     This project funds critical annual facility maintenance,                                                                   
     renewal and replacement, repair and renovation or remodeling                                                               
     and other miscellaneous capital projects.                                                                                  
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Reeves indicated  that  this project  is a  historical,  annual                                                            
project needed  to maintain approximately  114 buildings  throughout                                                            
the state  and to  insure that  the facilities  continue to  operate                                                            
properly  following  the national  standard  adopted  by all  Alaska                                                            
state agencies.  He  stressed that  this request  was pared down  to                                                            
this amount to "just address  the most critical areas." He continued                                                            
that the  division estimates  that roughly  20 percent of the  funds                                                            
would be  used for emergency  work that  occurs annually  throughout                                                            
the department.  He informed about the "wide spectrum"  of work that                                                            
is conducted at the various institutions around the state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward  asked about the total  cost and timeframe involved  in                                                            
the asbestos removal at Wildwood Correctional Center.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves  answered that asbestos  removal at Wildwood is  included                                                            
as part of this request, but he did not have the full details. He                                                               
said he would gather that information and provide it to Senator                                                                 
Ward.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Replacement  and  Repair  of  Security Systems,  and  Life  and                                                            
     Safety Equipment                                                                                                           
     $500,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  30798                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Public Protection                                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     This  project   funds  the  annual  replacement   of  essential                                                            
     security,  life  and  safety,  medical and  roads  and  grounds                                                            
     maintenance  equipment throughout all work sites  in the agency                                                            
     that  are  old, outdated,  and  not  capable of  providing  the                                                            
      needed operating support to the correctional programs.                                                                    
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves indicated that this is an annual request for replacement                                                             
of operating equipment at institutions. He read portions of the                                                                 
description that accompanies the request as follows:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The Department  of Corrections has approximately  $16.5 million                                                            
     in state-owned  equipment assets. Replacement  of old and worn-                                                            
     out  equipment  has  been deferred  for  many  years;  however,                                                            
     further  deferring  of  this  equipment  will  severely  reduce                                                            
     security,  decrease food service  capability, and other  day to                                                            
     day operations  capability and require repairs  that are not as                                                            
     cost-effective.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This  project  funds  the  replacement  of  antiquated  capital                                                            
     equipment  at  institutions   throughout  the  state.  It  also                                                            
     includes  some new purchases of necessary maintenance,  grounds                                                            
     keeping, snow removal,  and kitchen equipment. All institutions                                                            
     operate  24 hours a day, seven  days a week. This equipment  is                                                            
     used constantly  and continually  supporting life, health,  and                                                            
     safety  needs of  approximately  2,700 inmates  per day.  Their                                                            
     sustained  use requires  budgeting for  routine replacement  of                                                            
     old and worn out equipment every fiscal year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He stressed that there is equipment throughout every institution in                                                             
this capital request.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly noted a list of specific projects on the back-up                                                                 
sheet.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward asked if any capital requests have resulted from a                                                                 
person being strangled in an Anchorage prison.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves replied no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward commented that that affected "personnel only then."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Community Jails Facilities  Maintenance, Repair and Renovation,                                                            
     and Life and Safety Equipment                                                                                              
     $100,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.:  30782                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Public Protection                                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2003                                                                          
     This  funds  local  community  jails  facilities  maintenance,                                                             
     repairs   and  renovations,  and  life  and  safety   equipment                                                            
     requirements  necessary for the  safe operations of  each local                                                            
     jail facility.                                                                                                             
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves informed that this is a federally funded project for                                                                 
maintenance of the fifteen locally contracted community jails.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly specified that this only involves federal funds.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves concurred.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Correctional Institutions Roof Repairs and Replacement                                                                    
     $2,090,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  30784                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Public Protection                                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     This  project  funds  the review,  repair  and  replacement  of                                                            
     building  roofs at the Lemon  Creek, Wildwood, Fairbanks,  Cook                                                            
     Inlet,   Yukon-Kuskokwim,    and   Combined   Hiland   Mountain                                                            
     Correctional Centers.                                                                                                      
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Reeves informed  that this project is funded totally  by federal                                                            
funds to  be used for roof  replacement and  repairs. He noted  that                                                            
none of the projects had  an impact to staff or operational needs in                                                            
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Mt. Edgecumbe  High School Classroom and Fieldhouse  Repair and                                                            
     Renovation                                                                                                                 
     $150,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  6254                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Education                                                                                                       
     Location:  Sitka                                                                                                           
     Election District:  Sitka, Wrangell, Petersburg                                                                            
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2002                                                                          
     This  project  addresses   life  safety  code  compliance,  ADA                                                            
     compliance,  and  major  maintenance  and  renovation  for  the                                                            
     classroom  and  field  house  building at  Mt.  Edgecumbe  High                                                            
     School.    Replacing  and certifying  fire  alarm  systems  and                                                            
     reconstructing  the wood platforms in the field  house for fire                                                            
     suppression  and  fire  code  compliance  are  critical  safety                                                            
     concerns.   Americans  with Disabilities  Act (ADA)  compliance                                                            
     including  installation  of ramps,  an elevator  to the  second                                                            
     floor  classroom  space,  and modifications  to  restrooms  are                                                            
     essential improvements required under the ADA.                                                                             
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Manager,   School  Finance  and  Facilities   Section,                                                            
Department   of  Education  and  Early   Development  informed   the                                                            
Committee that  this request is "mainly  a life/safety code  for ADA                                                            
compliance  at Mt.  Edgecumbe  High School."  He  informed that  Mt.                                                            
Edgecumbe  School "is not  part of the Department's  AS 14  priority                                                            
process  of ranking  school districts'  priorities  because it  is a                                                            
state owned facility."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  recounted  that the  request  includes  the installation  of  an                                                            
elevator  to  access  classrooms  on  the  second  floor  and  other                                                            
facility upgrades.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked for clarification  on Mr. Jeans'  statement                                                            
that Mt. Edgecumbe  School was a state-owned school  and "it did not                                                            
fall  within the  same parameters  as  other schools'  requests  for                                                            
deferred maintenance and construction."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans replied that was correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked why that was the case.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  responded  that Mt.  Edgecumbe  School is  a state  owned                                                            
facility,  and the grant  process, in statue  under AS 1411,  is for                                                            
school districts only.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman wished  to clarify  that the  statue referred  to                                                            
schools owned by municipalities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  said yes and  added "or Regional  Educational  Attendance                                                            
Areas and in  some cases, the state  does own title on those  school                                                            
facilities  but it is a separate process  for schools within  school                                                            
districts, not facilities owned and operated by the state."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Mt. Edgecumbe High School Roof Repair and Replacement                                                                      
     $600,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  34116                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Education                                                                                                       
     Location:  Sitka                                                                                                           
     Election District:  Sitka, Wrangell, Petersburg                                                                            
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This  project  will  addresses   critical  roof  repair  and/or                                                            
     replacement  in three of the main residential  buildings at Mt.                                                            
     Edgecumbe High School.   The buildings, all built in the 1940s,                                                            
     include  the girls and  boys dormitory  and the kitchen/dining                                                             
     building.   Leaking  roofs and  the resulting  water damage  to                                                            
     roof  decking  and  interior  walls  threaten   the  structural                                                            
     integrity  of these buildings.  The supporting  timbers must be                                                            
     inspected for rot  and replaced if necessary.  In addition, the                                                            
     current construction  does not meeting the required 1-hour fire                                                            
     code rating.                                                                                                               
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans  informed the Committee  that these  repairs needed  to be                                                            
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Museum Facility Upgrade                                                                                                    
     $550,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  6255                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Juneau Areawide                                                                                                 
     Election District:  Juneau Areawide                                                                                        
     Estimated Project Dates:  [dates not provided]                                                                             
     This project addresses  essential upgrades to fire suppression,                                                            
     dust collection,  and space modification to protect  the museum                                                            
     collection valued at $24 million.                                                                                          
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KAREN CRANE, Director,  Libraries, Archives and Museums,  Department                                                            
of Education  and Early Development  shared with the Committee  that                                                            
there is a space  problem within the Juneau State  Museum and it was                                                            
time   to  begin   planning  for   essential   upgrades  and   space                                                            
modifications at the facility.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She informed  that an appropriation  of $500,000 on a FY  94 request                                                            
for $1,064,300  enabled the Museum to install a central  ventilation                                                            
unit, dehumidification  system, new boiler, and air filtration unit.                                                            
She continued  that the  FY 02 request  would  permit the Museum  to                                                            
complete a number  of projects that they were not  able to do due to                                                            
the  FY 94  funding  shortfall,  including:  "heating, ventilation,                                                             
electrical, and interior  finishes to the new space that was created                                                            
on the second floor when  the new boiler was put in," and removal of                                                            
the abandoned  heating and air handling equipment  from the basement                                                            
in order to "recapture  that space" which is adjacent to the current                                                            
storage area  in order to  allow for additional  storage space.  She                                                            
informed "that is a critical need."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Crane informed  that  the  "museum had  placed  some  temporary                                                            
storage units in the parking  area in the late 1970's as a temporary                                                            
measure, and they are still there."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Design for Museum and Archives Building Expansion                                                                          
     $500,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No: AMD34048                                                                                                     
     AP/AL: Appropriation                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Education                                                                                                        
     Location: Juneau Areawide                                                                                                  
     Election District Juneau Areawide                                                                                          
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Additional space for  the Alaska State Museum collection, which                                                            
     has  grown from 5,600  objects in 1967  to over 25,000  objects                                                            
     currently,  is  critical  to preserving  Alaska's  history  and                                                            
     culture.  Accommodating and protecting  the current  collection                                                            
     while making  room for new acquisitions is not  possible in the                                                            
     current  building, which exceeds  capacity. Many artifacts  are                                                            
     housed  in temporary storage  in the parking lot. The  building                                                            
     that houses the state  archival documents also exceeds capacity                                                            
     and is literally tearing apart. This project will provide                                                                  
     funds for design of a facility that will accommodate both the                                                              
     museum and archival needs of the state.                                                                                    
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Crane informed  that as early  as 1985, the Department  realized                                                            
the need for additional  space at the state museum  and the archives                                                            
building. She  stressed that the archives building  would run out of                                                            
storage space  in the next  two to three  years, and she  reiterated                                                            
that  the museum  is also  in  dire need  of additional  space.  She                                                            
shared that  the Department  feels that the  best solution,  and the                                                            
least expensive  one, is to add on to the current  museum for needed                                                            
room for both archives and the museum.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Crane  stated  planning  was needed  for  this  expansion.  She                                                            
informed that this was the first request for this project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly,  referring to the temporary storage  facility in the                                                            
parking lot,  shared a saying  by Canadian  humorist Red Green  that                                                            
"This is only temporary unless it works."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Crane stated she would  be happy to provide the Committee with a                                                            
tour of the facility.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Head Start Health and Safety Repairs                                                                                       
     $500,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  32628                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renewal and Replacement                                                                                     
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2005                                                                          
     This project  is requested to  assist Head Start facilities  in                                                            
     meeting health and  safety standards.  Types of projects funded                                                            
     would   include   replacing   windows,  stoves,   sinks,   fire                                                            
     extinguishers,  sprinkler systems, carpets, wiring,  insulation                                                            
     etc.                                                                                                                       
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
YVONNE CHASE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Early  Development,  Department                                                            
Education and  Early Development, testified via teleconference  from                                                            
Anchorage and  detailed some of the types of projects  that had been                                                            
funded  this year. She  stated that  in addressing  both health  and                                                            
safety,  several of  the communities  created  separate storage  for                                                            
chemicals to  keep them out of reach  of children, another  facility                                                            
purchased a  Head Start bus because  the old one was no longer  safe                                                            
to transport  children, one facility  purchased and installed  a new                                                            
fire alarm system,  and some facilities upgraded playground  fencing                                                            
to  be  compliant   with  access  requirements  for  children   with                                                            
disabilities.  She shared that this  year's request of $500,000  was                                                            
to  make further  inroads  on the  list of  projects  that had  been                                                            
identified.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  inquired if  there was any  federal money  available                                                            
either  outright or  with a  match requirement  for  these types  of                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase responded  there was a possibility  that this coming  year                                                            
there  may  be  some   federal  funding  available   from  a  recent                                                            
appropriation  approved by Congress,  but at this point,  it was not                                                            
known what  might be available for  Alaska. She stated there  was no                                                            
match requirement in terms  of capital budget on these funds if they                                                            
did become available.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked if Ms. Chase  knew when the information  about                                                            
the federal money would be available.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase  stated that  the Department  might know  within the  next                                                            
month about the  possibility that any of the federal  funds might be                                                            
able to be used "toward any programs for capital improvements."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked on  what projects and where the $500,000 was to                                                            
be spent.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase replied that  the Department had worked with the Headstart                                                            
association  to develop  a list of  their most  pressing health  and                                                            
safety needs.  She said she had a  list of both the kinds  of things                                                            
that are "funded specifically  within each program this year and the                                                            
needs that would be left  un-addressed." She said she would be happy                                                            
to provide the lists to the Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  asked if some of the  facility improvements  would be                                                            
"made to other people's properties."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase  replied that in  some cases yes,  because in many  of the                                                            
small communities,  private  entities are  actually providing  space                                                            
free of charge  for the program, and some of the space  needed to be                                                            
upgraded to be in compliance.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  asked if the state  had any "comparable programs  for                                                            
assisting those other daycare  workers who run private agencies that                                                            
provide similarly needed function in our communities."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase responded that  the department did not have a program that                                                            
was  comparable.  She informed  that  there was  legislation  passed                                                            
several years ago that  provided for a Loan fund to assist childcare                                                            
programs, and  she "understood that the Legislation  is still on the                                                            
books but there is no funding, however, in that program."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green asked if  there was  "any way that  this money  could                                                            
also go to local, privately run and managed daycare centers."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase replied yes, and that would be up to the legislature.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AVTEC Roof Repair and Replacement                                                                                          
     $650,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  6263                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renewal and Replacement                                                                                     
     Category:  Education                                                                                                       
     Location:  Seward                                                                                                          
     Election District:  Seward, Soldotna                                                                                       
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2002                                                                          
     This  project  will  addresses  critical  roof  repairs  and/or                                                            
     replacement  of  two  of the  instructional  buildings  at  the                                                            
     Alaska  Vocational  Technical  Center  (AVTEC) in  Seward,  the                                                            
     applied  Technology  Building and  the Oil Rig  Building.   The                                                            
     buildings,  all over 30 years  old, suffer from severe  leaking                                                            
     during  heavy rain  and snow  in Seward.   The resulting  water                                                            
     damage  to  roof  decking  and  interior   walls  threaten  the                                                            
     structural  integrity  of  these  buildings.    The  supporting                                                            
     timbers  must be inspected for  rot and replaced if  necessary.                                                            
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRED  ESPOSITO,  Director,   Alaska  Vocational  Technical   Center,                                                            
Department  of  Education   and  Early  Development   testified  via                                                            
teleconference  from Seward  and informed  the  Committee that  this                                                            
request  was for  ongoing  roof  repair and  replacement  for  AVTEC                                                            
buildings.  The project addressed  the need for roof repair  for two                                                            
buildings at AVTEC that  are over 30 years old and leaking, and that                                                            
these repairs would prevent  any further damage to the buildings. He                                                            
stated that prior  funding assistance allowed AVTEC  to fix roofs on                                                            
two other buildings  with a third  roof replacement slated  for this                                                            
summer.  He informed  that  this on-going  repair  request made  the                                                            
buildings   safe  and  dry  and  helped   preserve  the   buildings'                                                            
integrity.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked if these were state-owned buildings.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jeans responded yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  questioned  that the  back-up material  for  the                                                            
request did  not indicate this was  an on-going project,  but rather                                                            
reflected a  one-time project. He  stated that clearly "this  was an                                                            
on-going project"  and that the Committee should be  provided with a                                                            
history  and projection  of how much  work was  needed on the  AVTEC                                                            
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  agreed that the backup  material did not  accurately                                                            
reflect the situation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken asked  if the  FY 01  funding of  $365,000 had  been                                                            
obligated and  if the FY 02 request  of $650,000 could be  phased in                                                            
over two years.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Esposito responded  that AVTEC was currently in the design phase                                                            
for the  third major  roof replacement  with the  FY 01 funding.  He                                                            
informed that the "design  phase for the fairly large metal roof had                                                            
not yet been  completed" but the replacement  of that roof  had been                                                            
scheduled for  summer. He relayed  that this roof replacement  would                                                            
use up all of  the funds allocated for FY 01. He continued  that the                                                            
$650,000 request for FY  02 would allow the replacement of two other                                                            
roofs that  are leaking,  and he stressed  that the "snow loads  had                                                            
taken  their toll."  He continued  that  there were  other roofs  at                                                            
AVTEC  that  were  less than  twenty  years  old  that  also  needed                                                            
upgrades in order to "prevent realizing any further damage."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Jean  informed that  concluded the Department  of Education  and                                                            
Early Development's presentations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  commented that presentations from  the Department of                                                            
Fish and Game would be heard at the next capital budget meeting.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete Kelly adjourned the meeting at 10:52 a.m.                                                                         

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